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The force installs alone will make the systems life longer. If they do however have problems you don't have to buy one at launch. I intend to wait half a year to year before I buy either console to see what problems they have.

I'm not sure what you mean about second copies needed for back-up and your friend needing to stay at your house to finish an entire RPG.
If the system craps out on you just redownload it when you get another one. Maybe you don't understand that each copy would be digital regardless if you downloaded it or purchased from the store.

I have a friend in New York and I stay in Philadelphia. I gave him Tales of Vesperia and I did not go over his house nor did he come over my house to get it. I did not send him a USB with the game in the mail either. He simply recovered my Gamertag on his console and brought the game off the marketplace with my account. He can play Tales of Vesperia till his heart is content on his OWN Gamertag using his OWN console after the initial purchase. I can also play Tales of Vesperia on MY Gamertag using MY OWN Console. Even at the SAME time if we wanted too. I also gave him Metal Gear Peacewalker and we can play the MP together on it.

PS3 and Xbox 360 have had DRM since they released. DRM is just being extended to retail games.
 
The force installs alone will make the systems life longer. If they do however have problems you don't have to buy one at launch. I intend to wait half a year to year before I buy either console to see what problems they have.
they also ENSURE the games die when the console stops being supported. so that long lifespan may not be so long.

I'm not sure what you mean about second copies needed for back-up and your friend needing to stay at your house to finish an entire RPG.
If the system craps out on you just redownload it when you get another one. Maybe you don't understand that each copy would be digital regardless if you downloaded it or purchased from the store.
until the games stop being supported by the DRM, or microsoft comes out with a new system that doesnt support backwards compatibility ie. the system itself no longer being supported. i want to play my games 20 years from now. i already still do. DRM doesnt allow that. digital download doesnt allow that.

I have a friend in New York and I stay in Philadelphia. I gave him Tales of Vesperia and I did not go over his house nor did he come over my house to get it. I did not send him a USB with the game in the mail either. He simply recovered my Gamertag on his console and brought the game off the marketplace with my account. He can play Tales of Vesperia till his heart is content on his OWN Gamertag using his OWN console after the initial purchase. I can also play Tales of Vesperia on MY Gamertag using MY OWN Console. Even at the SAME time if we wanted too. I also gave him Metal Gear Peacewalker and we can play the MP together on it.
im sorry, im not giving out my account information to anybody. if you do thats your prerogative.

PS3 and Xbox 360 have had DRM since they released. DRM is just being extended to retail games.
maybe digital download wise, again exactly why i stopped buying digital downloads and went 100% retail. i dont want DRM in ANY of my games. I for the most part, have enjoyed a DRM free console experience, and I would like to keep it that way. I know for a fact there are many others who feel the same way.
i wont be buying one at launch or EVER unless they remove the DRM. please read green text above. sustainability is the very reason i buy retail games to begin with.
 
Yet in the PS4 thread you said PS5, PS6, etc moving forward is gonna be better on backwards compatibility because its built on a PC architecture. I don't see any different with Xbox One going forward since its built on a PC architecture.

Me having a friend in New York is irrelevant to the point I was making. You can physically go over your friends house and do the exact same thing. If you have a brother, sister, roommate, boyfriend, girlfriend, wife, husband or cousin in the next room with an Xbox One you can do the same thing. That keeps your account information secure and giving a second copy to them for free.

More proof that the Xbox Done is aimed at Television.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-24-microsoft-patents-awarding-achievements-for-watching-tv
It seems gaming is secondary for the Xbox Done.
You do realize PS3 had a lot of the non-gaming apps before Xbox right? I don't see what console features that have nothing to do with gaming mean a focus on TV. Its just extra fluff. Its not like all the consoles features are aimed at television either.

1000 cap on friends list
500GB hard drive with support for external hard drives NOT made by MS.
USB 3.0
Dedicated Servers for every game

^Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.
 
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