Xbox One Discussion

[Hot Rod Dave]

anyone else think we are to quick to judge being that its not even out yet? Still wanting to know if this "no backwards" shit is confirmed or just an internet rumor. That would be a HUGE drawback for me and then I could see the hostility. But seriously, might we be jumping to conclusions?

I kinda think the dude was just going into the newer types of features the xbox will have. Yeah it plays games and all, but the public knows that already. If Im gonna showcase my product for the first time, that is a sequel of some sort, I would want to project the new features this thing has over just talking bout the same ol shit that everyone already knows my product does.

 

[Slayer_X64]

Please help me understand why everyone thinks jumping ship to ps4 is the cure all for gaming? Xbox 1 is gonna have the exact same games and graphics minus console exclusive content. They basically have same technology Lol. The only difference will be controller and online gaming preference. Which buy the way is the same difference with current systems.

Today's technology allows for a device too do more than just play games. Look at your phone peeps. You bought it too talk but I'm betting you love the camera, HD recorder, internet, music player, video player, GAMES, texting and all the other shit I'm forgetting that your Phone does Lol.

Judging by comments here you guys are under the illusion that ps4 is a dedicated gaming console that only plays games Lol.

BOTH: PC architecture, will likely have alot of the same titles, pretty much equal capabilities. console exclusives are of course, pretty much irrelevant at this point for both sides.
XBOX ONE: A bunch of features that gamers like me dont care about and will rarely use(i used my PS3 as a blueray player maybe twice, but that wasnt its main purpose so dont kid yourself) and it has DRM out the wazoo. System is marketed as an all in one system with generic focus across the board, and nothing really fulfilling for gamers like me.
PS4: A bunch of features that gamers like me dont care about and will rarely use, but so far lacks DRM, and is remaining a game-centric console, with all other features being an after thought.

sounds to me like sony's doing it right. when was the last time you were watching a movie while checking your facebook while playing a game while chatting it up on skype while sitting in your living room with motion controls? i sure dont need that stuff to play games, just like i can do without an internet connection. i appreciate that those features are there, but they shouldnt take the cake on a gaming centric system, a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE of all places.

Hardcore gamers arent a minority here, and im sorry to disappoint you, but microsoft wouldnt even be making xbox one today if it werent for people like us.

Not only that but the MAIN issue here is the DRM besides. we want a system that can play our games 10-20 years down the road. gamers arent people who just drop their pants for the next best thing to come out. we want a sustainable source of entertainment that we can play privately or share with friends(ie. couch co-op), and a DRM riddled console just isnt capable of providing that.

 

[Slayer_X64]

anyone else think we are to quick to judge being that its not even out yet? Still wanting to know if this "no backwards" shit is confirmed or just an internet rumor. That would be a HUGE drawback for me and then I could see the hostility. But seriously, might we be jumping to conclusions?

I kinda think the dude was just going into the newer types of features the xbox will have. Yeah it plays games and all, but the public knows that already. If Im gonna showcase my product for the first time, that is a sequel of some sort, I would want to project the new features this thing has over just talking bout the same ol shit that everyone already knows my product does.

no backwards compatible is confirmed. xbox one and xbox360 use two different architecture types.

its not about the new features though, its about the DRM, and the non-game centric focus. tbh playing games isnt supposed to be the same old shit, it is supposed to be an "evolved experience" brought to us by the next generation of consoles, and with the amount of restrictions they are placing on gamers, the gaming market, ect its really just not worth it. and seeing as both consoles are practically identical hardware wise i'd really just rather grab a PS4 and not have to deal with this DRM garbage.

really those features to gamers just take a backseat, and sure while they're there people will use them, but its called a gaming console for a reason - it does gaming. just like your phone is a phone for a reason - it makes calls. they can all do all the same things as eachother to a lesser extent, but each one has a primary purpose.

Also think of it this way HRD. you buy a game, and want to play it. so you get home and play it. thats fine and all. but then HRJ decides he wants to play the game. well you have to pay the full price of the game a second time just so that he can play the game he wants to play unless you want him to play on your live account. Or you could get a PS4 and not have to compromise.

How does SC play on your PC?

SB, SC1, SC2 and SC3 run great on my PC. in another 10 years so will SC4 and SC5. and if they release SC6 with PC compatibility on next gen, it will work immediately. and looking at how similar the architecture is between console and PC they might just do that. you never know.

I dont understand what point you were trying to prove with this statement.

 

[Hot Rod Dave]

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wait wait wait....I have a few questions.

#1. what is DRM and why is that so important? (just plain ignorance please forgive me)

#2. So what your saying is, that if I buy a game. I play it under "HRD". Then HRJ wants to playit under his account, he will not be able to unless I buy the game again? Even if I bought 2 xbox 1's I cant take the disc from one console to another and I wouldnt be able to do that either?

Ive said before if thats the case....they will end major companies like GameStop and anywhere else that sells used games. That would be a huge shame. On top of that what Im getting from you is that I might be only able to play the game for a certain period of time?

OK if thats for real, then fuck xbox.

I remember when I fist got a 360, the thing only comes with one controller, so I had to buy another one, then batteries. I needed to buy a charger and rechargable batteries. Then I felt like I was just getting taken for a ride, cause I had to pay to play online, etc etc.

I sense that microsoft is up to the same shit. I really hope thats not the case and we are looking at things wrong.

 

[Ryuhza]

wait wait wait....I have a few questions.

#1. what is DRM and why is that so important? (just plain ignorance please forgive me)

#2. So what your saying is, that if I buy a game. I play it under "HRD". Then HRJ wants to playit under his account, he will not be able to unless I buy the game again? Even if I bought 2 xbox 1's I cant take the disc from one console to another and I wouldnt be able to do that either?

Ive said before if thats the case....they will end major companies like GameStop and anywhere else that sells used games. That would be a huge shame. On top of that what Im getting from you is that I might be only able to play the game for a certain period of time?

OK if thats for real, then fuck xbox.

I remember when I fist got a 360, the thing only comes with one controller, so I had to buy another one, then batteries. I needed to buy a charger and rechargable batteries. Then I felt like I was just getting taken for a ride, cause I had to pay to play online, etc etc.

I sense that microsoft is up to the same shit. I really hope thats not the case and we are looking at things wrong.

#1 DRM is Digital Rights Management. In other words, it's online passes and activation codes; things that prevent you from reusing or sharing your disc. With Xbox One, they're talking about locking your disc activation to your singular account. If someone else wants to play, they either have to use your account to play it, or buy the game at shelf price to activate it on their own account. So, in this situation, if you wanted to buy a used game to get it cheaper, you'd actually ending up paying more: paying a reduced price for the used disc, and then paying full price for activation.

I believe that answers #2 as well.