Hate Speech: Of Clean Hits, Designs, and Time Travel

O.o! Oh forgot! Sorry took a break after all the drama in the forums got to me. I'll get back to it.

But yeah, I'm expecting a lot of "told you so"s to be handed out when we get the game for a month. A lot of the complaining about mechanics was derived from heavy speculation when ever we were given some info before the devs had a finished mechanics to present, much less have someone test and confirm. What we've been seeing is a lot of:

  1. New mechanic introduce
  2. Section of the community flips out and says it's stupid and give reasons
  3. Someone plays it and confirms it's none issue
  4. People stop without acknowledging they were wrong
  5. repeat

...facepalm! Not to say valid concerns haven't been said, just over reactions and assumed final product and usage have been rampant in discussions. Just glad someone like Hates at the forefront is being a voice of logic.
 
Nofacekill3r said:
Can somebody explain to me why having SC5 be 100% skill based would be a bad thing?
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Because you already know this is a disingenuous loaded question.

IvyFanboy said:
Usual Holier-than-Thou nonsense
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Hey remember that jG outrage thread? It was cited by Utoh san at NEC as one of the reasons for the change in the mechanic to a riskier version, and helped with ironing out issues related to it, like accidental jG and refining the window.

So anyways, you ready to pony up my money yet?
 
BrewtusBibulus said:
Ok, so NFK was pointing out that maybe I was kinda harsh. So let me explain myself. This dumbass using Cass 44B+K as an example has no real concept of risk vs reward. He uses it in situations where it lands, but you could also land other moves that kill people much more effectively. In an effort to put your ass on the right track, the designers have made the game without silly nonsense like that. If you ever win a tournament match, you should thank them for stopping you from killing yourself.

As far as I'm concerned if you want to beat your head against a wall, you can. If you want to use moves that don't work, you can do that too. If you want to get rewarded for acting like a retard, I'm going to tell you to rethink your view on things... and when you bring that tired ass argument back, I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself. As I just did.

Do you really try to play chess your own way against people that know how to play? Have you ever seen how hard you lose when you push pieces around how you want to instead of running an intelligent gambit? You should go find a chess club somewhere and play. It's going to be a worse beating then any fighting game tournament experience.

Maybe you should keep on defending how you want to lose or maybe I'm just an asshole... Have fun deciding for yourself.
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To answer your question, yes you are an asshole.

I don't know where all that hostility is coming from, really. You must really hate me.

And I suppose the fact that 44B+K jumps over lows, has no value? Or the fact that the damage is high? Or maybe the fact that it has some tracking also means nothing to you?

And about the chess thing, if you ever studied grandmasters, they can at times play identically in the OPENING sequences, like Sicilian defense, or Queen's gambit, etc. But no 2 games are identical, and no 2 grandmasters have identical styles. Bobby Fischer was known for having a very aggressive style, whereas Karpov was a more defensive, positional player.

I'm not going to attempt to make an argument for SC, but at least in the world of chess, even at the highest level people play differently. Based on what I've seen, SC tourney players don't play identically either.

I'm not going to stoop to your level by lashing back out with insults like you did. I think it would have been more polite if you just said something like, "I disagree, and I think this (enter thought here)".

It doesn't matter if your right, try to have a little class. Insulting people is NOT a good way to convince people. Just sayin'

If you had some decency, I might actually listen to you.
 
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