Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3

Vergil with swords scares the shit out of me, I honestly don't know what to do against him. I know I need to hit him before he has a chance to get near me but his hit box gets so wide its ridiculous.


in general he is pretty easy, you have to lure him to tele...........

if you zone virgil out, you will force a back tele by virgil, as soon as he back teles he will be wide open for a quick punish or a grab...... also if virgil is useing assist as a cover, a full screen hypercombo after virgils tele is great way to score a HBD.

the trick to virgil is you let the opponent rush you, so that you can abuse virgils shitty recovery, advanve guarding virgil is actually a bad thing, the advance guard will push virgil far enough that he can land clean hits at a safe distance without fear of punish on his recovery.......

virgils sword dance really isnt all that great, if someone uses it against you, just zone him out.... run away, use long range moves, super jump, and time your block for when they tele because thats all they will do to get in close..... virgils sword dance last about 5 seconds.......all you really have to do is spend 1-2 projectile hypercombos on virgil and the sworddance move will be useless.......
 
Anyone else noticing issues with characters sometimes facing the wrong direction in an attack or completely random entry on a character after one dies? I've noticed this a bit lately and just wanna make sure I'm not going crazy here or it's unfortunate coincidence of specific scenarios.

Also I'm really scared of Wesker, Zero, and Vergil right now. I'm sure down the line Strider will scare me too. I'm starting to think counter picks rather than a fully synergetic offense.

Honestly, I disagree with this to a certain extent. While its important to play the matchup, I don't think it's that important that you would want to sacrifice team synergy just to survive in battle longer. With all the possible team combinations, the best way is to find a team that is synergetic and counterpicks 80% of your opponent's strategies at the same time.

2 cents.
 
Nah it wasn't me. I always thought that Vergil would be a real threat once I saw how he teleported, and seeing the things he could do with the swords only made it worse
Yep, pretty much, though his teleports are mostly a threat with assists.
in general he is pretty easy, you have to lure him to tele...........

if you zone virgil out, you will force a back tele by virgil, as soon as he back teles he will be wide open for a quick punish or a grab...... also if virgil is useing assist as a cover, a full screen hypercombo after virgils tele is great way to score a HBD.

the trick to virgil is you let the opponent rush you, so that you can abuse virgils shitty recovery, advanve guarding virgil is actually a bad thing, the advance guard will push virgil far enough that he can land clean hits at a safe distance without fear of punish on his recovery.......

virgils sword dance really isnt all that great, if someone uses it against you, just zone him out.... run away, use long range moves, super jump, and time your block for when they tele because thats all they will do to get in close..... virgils sword dance last about 5 seconds.......all you really have to do is spend 1-2 projectile hypercombos on virgil and the sworddance move will be useless.......
Someone doesn't know shit about Vergil except for what they see online...

"If you zone against Vergil, you will force Vergil to do a back teleport."
Nope, there's way more options than that. Round Trip, swords, assist, or the Vergil can just play smart and get in that way. You can oven teleport (gasp) in front of the opponent or overhead of them. Teleport is a 3-way guess, make no mistake.

"As soon as he teleports, he's open for a quick punish or grab"
The punish will only work on a raw teleport, and even if you grab them, the Vergil player can mash to break the throw.

"Let the Vergil rush you down, so you can abuse Vergil's shitty recovery"
Wrong again. If you let Vergil in, he's never get off of you, and you're going to have to guess until you're dead. Vergil's got more than enough blockstring and pressure options to keep himself safe (and no, they do not cost meter). But hey, if you want to give me that free in, that's cool.

"Vergil's sword dance isn't all that great, just zone him out"
Sword dance protects Vergil from projectiles. What game are you playing? Swords create free ins for Vergil. For example, I can activate Swords and just fucking go in on Hawkeye. Rapid Slash, Round Trips, the works, it all gets insane with swords on. And tele+swords creates instant lockdown. Good luck blocking mixups from that.

"All you have to do is spend 1-2 projectile hypers on Vergil and Swords is useless"
Yes, please do waste more meter to get rid of my swords than I did to pay for swords. Fine by me.
 
Yep, pretty much, though his teleports are mostly a threat with assists.

Someone doesn't know shit about Vergil except for what they see online...

"If you zone against Vergil, you will force Vergil to do a back teleport."
Nope, there's way more options than that. Round Trip, swords, assist, or the Vergil can just play smart and get in that way. You can oven teleport (gasp) in front of the opponent or overhead of them. Teleport is a 3-way guess, make no mistake.

"As soon as he teleports, he's open for a quick punish or grab"
The punish will only work on a raw teleport, and even if you grab them, the Vergil player can mash to break the throw.

"Let the Vergil rush you down, so you can abuse Vergil's shitty recovery"
Wrong again. If you let Vergil in, he's never get off of you, and you're going to have to guess until you're dead. Vergil's got more than enough blockstring and pressure options to keep himself safe (and no, they do not cost meter). But hey, if you want to give me that free in, that's cool.

"Vergil's sword dance isn't all that great, just zone him out"
Sword dance protects Vergil from projectiles. What game are you playing? Swords create free ins for Vergil. For example, I can activate Swords and just fucking go in on Hawkeye. Rapid Slash, Round Trips, the works, it all gets insane with swords on. And tele+swords creates instant lockdown. Good luck blocking mixups from that.

"All you have to do is spend 1-2 projectile hypers on Vergil and Swords is useless"
Yes, please do waste more meter to get rid of my swords than I did to pay for swords. Fine by me.



dude are you fucking retarted.......

like seriosly i was just giving him some of my personal suggestions then you go around with ur useless troll, ur a fucking douche bag and a waste of life......everything i said is legitmate and are possible options in a given situation...

what i said is not law, just possiblities..........

yes virgil does have shitty recovery on certian optoins, if ur not a retarted you would notice and exploit virgils recoverys.....

spending meter to stop a troublesome move such as sword dance is a compensation, if you struggle with sworddance that spending meter is not a waste,........

not all projectiles are block by sword dance, any beam type attack, such as dooms plasma beam, or irons laser cannon thing, or magnetos disruptor beam

mix ups created by sword dance arnt all that much differnt then any normal mix up virgil has, if u can block his normal mix ups then mix ups with sword dance are just the same........

punishing virgils teleports is one of the most effective ways to tackle virgil, grabs always is a vaible option, whether the break the grab or not, ull have the advantage........

virgils options may be varied, but its up to the player to perform the mix ups approitly, i play both online and offline virgils, they all play the same rush in and use teles for mixups, ppl predomintly use virgils back tele for mixups as its the most effective for opponets that are zoning out, tele above is easily back stepped and tele forward is easily blocked, virgils rapid dash thrown out randomly is unsafe.

instead of shutting me out like a douchy troll that your are, be constructive give advice, dont be a dick and point out everything i saw as wrong, anything and everything i stated were my strategies when dealing with virgils, they work for me.......so telling me im wrong is a pure demonstration of ur retardation.

all you had to do was just suggest an alternative, not be a dick and attack every fucking sentence, your a mother fucker, go die..........
 
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