Hate Speech: Degeneracy (Competition)

[IdleMind]

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I don't think what you've run into here is a gameplay or even a logic problem. It's an old fashioned "Bark Bark Growl" defense of actions taken within the game that occurs in any competitive environment. When you step back and look at it from that point of view, how this conversation went becomes pretty clear to me.

No matter how eloquent your response, or accurate your observation; it will filter through the lens and come out as one of 3 questions, generally:

1) Who Are you?

2) What have you done, anyways?

3) Who are you to question me (which is a combo of 1 and 2).

Sad, yes, but also true. Stand-offishness is the natural side effect of competitive environments. It's sort of a relic of the arcade culture; in my opinion... but that's a topic for another time.

 

[MONEYMUFFINS]

Balance does not have to mean that all characters are exactly the same, only that capacity for victory is equally viable.

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...are you really going to argue that you didn't make an error there that you clearly did?

I agree that a win is a win. But just because everyone can win doesn't mean achieving it is equally viable in the first place. And because of that, mistakes become subjective since it depends on what the players want in the matchup. You can't know what I'm intent on doing, so telling me I made a mistake isn't necessarily the case. In fact, I ignored what you said I did wrong since you're not me and aren't thinking of the next step like I am. Furthermore, I am glad I sound contemptuous to you. We must settle this like men and play for pogs.

 

[Digitality]

I agree that a win is a win. But just because everyone can win doesn't mean achieving it is equally viable in the first place. And because of that, mistakes become subjective since it depends on what the players want in the matchup. You can't know what I'm intent on doing, so telling me I made a mistake isn't necessarily the case. In fact, I ignored what you said I did wrong since you're not me and aren't thinking of the next step like I am. Furthermore, I am glad I sound contemptuous to you. We must settle this like men and play for pogs.

Alright, alright. I don't know what you were intending, you're right. It's very easy to comment on something in retrospect, especially from the outside. I'm not really interested in arguing that point. I consider it an error, you want to call it a plan that apparently didn't pan out. Semantics to me.

It also seems like we're just going to disagree on the best approach to balance. We're coming from two radically different camps of thought in that regard and I don't think either of us will change our position.

I'm afraid I'll have to decline your challenge to pogs. I've simply never had a hand for the game. I'd probably end up going home pogless. haha