Getting Used To Things.

When i said play for real i meant that i realized that i had limited knowledge of the game, but i want to play with people on XBL things like that. I realized when i had difficulty beating Algol on Arcade. In short im trying to improve my game skill, because i dont consider how i played actually real fighting. (Id spam certain moves, and didnt know any combos)

Mains.... id say right now... im intrested most in Sophie, Nightmare and Astaroth. Though out of the 3, im most familar with Sophie.

When it comes to those notations, im completely lost! xD
 
Ok first thing's first, before I can teach you any technical information, understanding the notations is the most important thing.

Thread: http://8wayrun.com/threads/basic-notations-and-terminology.58/

Convienient Video Format: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDDfI554mQs&feature=player_embedded

Once you understand these things; you can begin to understand the information presented on the site.

Alright, assuming you've digested those; there are many ways to learn to play the game. My personal suggestion is 3 major things help you learn the game:

1) The obvious: Playing the game.

Playing the game with skilled players is a more accurate definition of what I'm trying to say. There is an old saying, which is "Your only as good as your best competition". Playing against good people will show you what your bad habits are as a player; because they will exploit them. Then, from your match experience, and especially from your losses, if you can reflect on WHY you lost (or have a good teacher who can explain it to you as well), you will learn rapidly. It also familiarizes you with match-ups and move animations, as well as common tactics.


If you have no offline competition in your area (which you can figure out by visiting this forum), or are loathe to venture out into the offline arena without some basics first, playing online is a decent but imperfect substitute.

Allow me to be frank: Online does not offer a complete way to learn. The differences in the game online and off are many and varied; due to lag having such a huge and sometimes hidden effect on the way the game is played. That doesn't mean that it's worthless though, because there are many good players online and even some top tournament players play online SC. The major difference between them and the bad players is that they omit "lag tactics" from their play as much as humanly possible. For more insight on "Lag Tactics" and how to level up your game online, visit this thread and this forum. Be sure to heed to header warning though. Sometimes the online forum can be not-so-nice.

2) Practice Mode is your friend!

SC4 offers a very robust practice mode; with tons of options. It can help you combo practice, and it can help you learn to defend against certain attacks. You can program it to attack you in certain ways so you can become familiar with how to deal with those things. Every good player has spent "time in the lab" as practice mode is known. Those combos you can practice? You can find them in the respective characters Soul Arenas, which house character specific information: Nightmare Sophitia and Astaroth. You can also find info on the characters moves; and matchups against other characters.

3) Watching videos of good players

This one seems obvious, but there is a caveat to it- while it is good to see what effective moves and tactics good players use; it is far more important to see what they DON'T do. Ask yourself why certain players aren't doing certain things and you will be on your way to learning to break down the game and become a better player.

Some sample videos from top tournament players for each of your characters:

Keev (Nightmare) vs Saitoh (Astaroth) Both of these players are largely regarded as the best players for their particular character.

Something Unique (Kilik) vs Ramon (Sophitia) These players are also widely regarded with both of their characters, perhaps the best examples in the US of each of them.

This should get you started, I'll follow this one up with some more specific information tommorow.

-Idle
 
Thank you so much Idle. I watched those tournament links you sent me, i was wowed at the skills of the participants. Saitoh knows his Astaroth well o_o;. I also was suprised at the Ramon Vs. Something-Unique Battle. The way Sophitia came back on that last round on the 3rd match was shocking.

But now i understand the notations now. It wasnt as confusing as i thought it would be. I also analyzed those fights i watched also and noticed some key things. One of the few was that Saitoh just about took every opportunity he found to attack Keev. Those air grabs looked complex. They also didnt just rush in recklessly, like I always did. And they were taking advantage on their positions near the edges of the ring or anywhere on the ring. Final thing i noticed was that Saitoh shortened his unblockables, which made me learn that Unblockables dont have to be fully charged to be efficient.

Thank You For The Info! ;] It really taught me something, (Unless im wrong on something, correct me please if i am)

Ill probably use some Practice Mode tonite. But just one question: Out of my 3 Selections of chars id like to know better and master, which one would be more user friendly to me at the knowledge/skill level of SC im at? Astaroth, Nightmare or Sophie?

But thats all, thanks again for that post full of info!
 
All ramble of dogmatic encourage post lol:

Particularly when it came to maining someone, I would always pick the one that compliments my playstyle. Yoshi for instance was mained for all my needs and he's of course a favorite. Anyways, the most easy one to learn out of all three is all personal opinion. Do you like grappling power? Asty's for you. You like ring-out or crush the opponent with force? Nighty's for you. Do you for instance prefer sheer girl power(trust me girls usually are more deadlier than guys lol) then Sophie will be your girl. All three have the tools they need to keep a solid game, it just you have to beware of their weaknesses.....which I'll leave for the more experts of those said characters. Or you could main all three to be the jack of all trades. Just one fundamental rule for anyone new(forgive me if I sound rude): Rome wasn't built in one day as to you can't be awesome in one day. Basically, take your time in learning all you need to be good enough to pwn your friends at this game(admit it, you wanna make them fear you a bit.) If you get stuck, help is always.......um.....one click away. Okay that was cliche lol. In any case, hope you voraciously ask for help and chill out with......um......us ><;
 
Yeah pretty much. Ive been playing Nightmare for a VERY LONG TIME now and Im still anything but perfect. I learned purely from playing online so this way will get you going a lot faster but youll still need to keep at it. I know its frustrating to lose a lot so all I can say is "It may suck now, but theres nothing more satisfying than playing a solid game versus a solid player and winning". That may take a bit but its SOOO worth it. Keep at it :)
 
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