Jail time for streaming?!??

[LivingShadow]

Sounds like a fantastic waste of resources. Hypothetically speaking. I have to wonder how strictly they could expect to enforce this law. Probably more the threat of it meant to deter people than anything. Probably wouldn't bother the average small-fry though. I doubt they'll run the tab up for every amateur music video they see.

We both can agree on that, why are they spending money on this as opposed to say... balancing the budget? We have enough people in jail as it is.

As for number of targets, I don't know how much attention you've been paying to the RIAA's litigation tactics but for a while they were suing everyone the court system would let them. (The primary tactic was to ask for a settlement beforehand since fighting it would result in them dropping the case and leaving the defendant with the lawyer fees. It's ugly tactics to say the least.) And with this law the penalty is a felony so the government is legally obliged to go after them.

 

[D.I.N.O]

Meanwhile, the US Treasury has one Month to take Action before the US will be forced to Default on its Debt....Scary Bidness...

 

[Ghengis_John]

We both can agree on that, why are they spending money on this as opposed to say... balancing the budget? We have enough people in jail as it is.

As for number of targets, I don't know how much attention you've been paying to the RIAA's litigation tactics but for a while they were suing everyone the court system would let them. (The primary tactic was to ask for a settlement beforehand since fighting it would result in them dropping the case and leaving the defendant with the lawyer fees. It's ugly tactics to say the least.) And with this law the penalty is a felony so the government is legally obliged to go after them.

To be fair though, in regards to RIAA it wasn't as if those sued had not stolen something. The sometimes exorbitant demands for remuneration were detestable, but everyone involved was knowingly a thief or someone in their home was. The stolen items were on their hard drives, the download logs incriminated them.

That said upon learning that you can break the law while still earning less than 5k a year on your videos I must also object to it. Something about proving intent by not examining the people you're trying to incriminate sits ill with me. Breaking the law while not meaning to? Ridiculous.

Im not gunna sit here and defend my view point. I dont like this bill for many reasons.

Well, you can have my apologies right here and now. But if you did bother to defend your viewpoint like shadow did I might have been convinced. I am not unreasonable.

 

[HajimeOwari]

Your strikes reset every 180 days. Seriously, the bill is perfectly reasonable.

"YOU COULD GO TO JAIL FOR POSTING VIDEO OF YOUR FRIENDS SINGING KAROKE!"

Typical scare tactic. An ounce of common sense shows otherwise. The bill does not eliminate fair use laws, nor would that constitute a usage with clear intent to profit. They fail to mention any of these stipulations nor the reset cycle. The ones most in arms about this are the pirates, and they're doing a lot to whip people up with misinformation.

Don't get me wrong. I love my anime fansubs, but I won't abide a liar.

While it is an extreme example, karaoke isn't fair use and would be considered a felony under this bill. This also falls under any type of game streaming. Don't give me that nonsense about pirates stirring up misinformation and pirates supporting this bill. A ridiculous law is ridiculous. Don't pass it off as if it's okay, just because your strikes reset and it takes 10 strikes. Keep giving up rights you have and pretty soon you'll have none left.

 

[LivingShadow]

To be fair though, in regards to RIAA it wasn't as if those sued had not stolen something. The sometimes exorbitant demands for remuneration were detestable, but everyone involved was knowingly a thief or someone in their home was. The stolen items were on their hard drives, the download logs incriminated them.

Not in all cases. (same case different site)

A large number of the cases that the RIAA brought up died when taken to court.

They also had a habit of dismissing cases that were taken to court