T6BR tier list

[LKV]

the current BR release is what is coming to console, AFAIK. but it's just called Tekken 6.

B! stands for bound, which is the juggle extension mechanic. it guarantees a free hit (typically to continue the juggle), but you can eventually tech out of it if your opponent takes too long. one B! per juggle, and the later you use it, the fewer the hits or the shorter the juggle is afterwards. i'm not sure how/if it affects damage scaling.

and universal low parry now puts you in B! immediately, indirectly making low parries weaker than before (not sure about the reward in TTT's low parry system, but in DR gave most characters a full juggle)

 

[XLcowboy]

So is BR what we are getting on the console or are we getting something different? Arent there a few new characters that arent on teh BR version?

BR's the latest release.

What is B! or i think bound position. This seems like the main position people are kept in when adding on to juggles. Is it possible to tech out of bound position?

Well, the juggles have been nerfed hardcore without walls. The best damage you can get (e.g. 50% or more without special stage breaks) would require you to be in rage, nail a CH launcher, do bound, high wall splat, and a wall impact move.

If you're able to get a floor break after already doing a bound move, consider yourself very lucky. Same thing if you're able to do a post-bound wall shatter (wall splat that causes the wall to break, leaving your opponent stunned and open for a few extra hits, without worrying about the 3-hits-only wall limit).

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Just to clear a few things:

Default: Bound can't be done twice in a combo. "Double" bound only happens if you manage a floor break AFTER you've done a bound move.
Default: Wall splat can only be done once on a wall. However, if you're able to re-carry the opponent to another wall, it's possible to get another (side) wall splat. Is it possible to do 3 wall splats in one combo via 3 different walls? Maybe, but I AFAIK, nobody knows yet, and the stages aren't exactly setup to allow for that to happen (although somebody might just be able to pull it off on a combo vid).
Default: After a wall splat, the rule of thumb is that you're given a window that allows for 3 more hits, depending on the speed. Speed-wise, think Paul's d4,2:1+2 (All 3 hits will connect). Rapid-hitting mid attacks (such as Steve's hundred punches) will net you more hits however, but not all characters have those moves. Likewise, you won't have the time to connect 3 slow but powerful attacks post-wall splat. Maybe 2 at most.
Default: AFAIK, Air-throws in combos do not scale. Which explains why King can be extremely dangerous: e.g. CH FC~df2, db2 B!, df4,3, 1, f221, df1,2 W!, iSW = the iSW's damage will still be at full power.

 

[EpicPhail37]

XLcowboy, how much does T5DR carry over to T6BR? I'm learning a lot of T5DR moves + combos with the characters, but are the combos + mixups drastically different in T6BR?

I'm wondering if I should start practicing and using the T6BR combos in T5DR now in online matches...that would probably nerf my damage output like crazy haha

 

[XLcowboy]

XLcowboy, how much does T5DR carry over to T6BR? I'm learning a lot of T5DR moves + combos with the characters, but are the combos + mixups drastically different in T6BR?

I'm wondering if I should start practicing and using the T6BR combos in T5DR now in online matches...that would probably nerf my damage output like crazy haha

Tbh, the size of the gap depends on your character. When I practice on DR, I look at mastering techniques (such as iSW, CD cancelling, JF's, etc.) and improving my SS game more than the combos, because the SS in BR is different, thanks to the improved hitboxes, and because the combos in BR have been changed a bit.

Re:SS - generally speaking, bigs have shitty SS, big-mids (King), have slightly better SS, mids have the standard SS, while smalls have darn good SS. (Also, the sizes aren't a height thing - it's a width issue)

 

[EpicPhail37]

Oh cool, and which characters do you think have the biggest gap and which ones have the smallest? That'll help me when I'm playing T5DR not to abuse stuff that's no longer in T6 anymore. Thanks for the info.