If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out...

[Felix007]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Disturbing timing, I just started up a thread like this in another section.

He says that he doesn't want to force the kids to believe in evolution, but to open their minds to other possibilities... although his tone and what he talks about makes it clear that to him, if you still think there is a God after learning about evolution, YOU ARE STUPID.

Are you kidding, or do you like to strawman what other people say? Evolution and Christianity are not incompatible, it's the people that believe the Earth is 6,000 years old and we were all placed here, fully formed, as according to the Bible that he has a problem with. Dawkins doesn't think you're idiotic for being a theistic evolutionist, look at scientists such as Kenneth Miller who find both a place for their God and evolution.

Hm. True, that. I was ranting and got carried away. But suing is a pretty extreme for something as trivial as that. Just like the pledge of alleigance. If you are athiest or of a different religion that doesn't believe in one god, just don't say the words "Under God." I guess the same could be said about the presidential oath, although it's more of a tradition thing than a true "showing preference to Christianity." Most, if not all presidents who had a religion were Christians, or some other division under it. So, again, tradition.

Not in the slightest! You can't show preferential treatment towards one religion even if the majority believe in that religion. There is a reason separation of Church and State exists. As an atheist, I'm not allowed to hold public office in Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas because of a required "belief in a higher power". Sure, I could lie about it, but why should I have to? It's not just "a little thing" we have to deal with.

The words "Under God" were added into our pledge of allegiance around the 50's, during the Cold War. It was an attempt to dehumanize the Russians by calling them "godless commies", and by adding "Under God" into our state pledge, attempt to instill a sense of superiority into Americans. It has no right to be there, but removing it would be challenging.

Funny how ppl blame their bad luck on God all the time. I don't understand that.

It doesn't seem like a double standard to you to give thanks to God for all of the good things, but not the bad?

IMO, the big bang is proof that God exists. How else could something like time itself be born?

How could something that has the ability to make time itself exist? Introducing God doesn't solve the problem of infinite regression, he aggravates it.

 

[farranpoison]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Are you kidding, or do you like to strawman what other people say? Evolution and Christianity are not incompatible, it's the people that believe the Earth is 6,000 years old and we were all placed here, fully formed, as according to the Bible that he has a problem with. Dawkins doesn't think you're idiotic for being a theistic evolutionist, look at scientists such as Kenneth Miller who find both a place for their God and evolution.

I would agree with you on the fact that many scientists have found ways to still believe in God after evolution and other science facts, but have you ever actually watched Richard Dawkins' documentary on evolution? (Yep, that's his name. I just researched it.) The man is, as I've said before, notorious for being a hardcore atheist. If it was a scientist going to a Christian school to talk about evolution, fine. But when you watch the documentary, he's clearly saying that he thinks that religion is for the uneducated. He basically says, "How can you still believe in God when evolution clearly shows that there isn't one?" The funny thing is, in his documentary, he talks about Charles Darwin as if he was a god.

"Charles Darwin wanted to be a preacher. Thankfully, he didn't pursue such a career, because if he did, we would still be unaware of the greatest scientific discovery in mankind's history."

I like a decent amount of criticism in religion, but this guy goes way too far in my book.

As for the words "Under God" that are embedded into our society today, I'll let that subject drop. I'm probably getting way in too far over my head.

 

[Marginal]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

How could something that has the ability to make time itself exist? Introducing God doesn't solve the problem of infinite regression, he aggravates it.

Another thing about the whole "OMG! Look at creation! That's proof of a creator!" is even if you accept that premise as valid, it says nothing about the nature of the creator. HP Lovecraft has as much chance of being right about the mechanics behind such a creation as a bunch of dead Hebrew folks etc do.

 

[Plume]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

I fuck up so much but the big guy always bails me out. Epic warbles, son. Epic.

I mean there isn o way there isn't SOME kind of entity trying to make my life a living hell.

And there I was wondering if I was the only one...
I don't believe in any god, but there HAS to be something somewhere that lives just to toy with me.
It's impossible for such repetitive, perfect bad luck, to "just happen".


To make by belief even stronger, when I was a kid, I was absurdly lucky.
In elementary schools, if we put our name on a paper and there was a prize for whoever got picked, the best prize was automatically mine.

So I went from impossible good luck to impossible bad luck.



(And when I play OR watch people play in SCIV, I can't help thinking that some people occasionally have extremely good luck, while others seem to have a streak of bad luck. I consider luck a trait, like strength potential, intelligence potential, etc.)

 

[docvizzo]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Random note:

Just today i read an article about the Evolution Conference organized by the Vatican, and the Vatican accepts the Evolution 100% as a fact. Thats the official statement.

Creationism again is considered as an american-only pseudoscience issue and therfore is rejected by the Vatican in every single aspect.

Of course i could give a link, but its german...;)