As a hilde player, the 'Basic strats vs characters' seems worth while.
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Ramus
Something like that ^ But whatever you want will be gladly received.
undefined.yuuki
Something like that^ It's awesome to have you back Hussler. I for one hold a lot of respect for you and your work on the SA.
Hussler
Alright, will do! Thanks yuuki, I really appreciate that. I hope to rep Hilde well at NEC or Evo next year!
undefined.yuuki
I'm looking forward to it! Now that I think about it, Hilde Tech traps have been done for miles, so if you want to work on the punishment info then that would also be helpful.
Party Wolf
button layouts and how to exploit them
Hussler
^haha
HolyCarp
More of a random question than anything, but do you have a list of ways to start C2B loops? Off the top of my head I can think of 22B, 66B BE, 3B BE, 3A and C2B. Am I missing a few?
I was mainly wondering for her post-GI game since if you can get them in your fruitloop combos you earn back the meter you spent for the GI, and more.
I was mainly wondering for her post-GI game since if you can get them in your fruitloop combos you earn back the meter you spent for the GI, and more.
Hussler
[A+B] and 4KK. [A+B] only combos on CH though, and 4KK never combos, lol.
Her post GI mixup is between 3BA~c1B and 22B/3[A]~c2B... I pretty much always do 22B or 3[A] after a GI because you get insane guard damage & frames.
Her post GI mixup is between 3BA~c1B and 22B/3[A]~c2B... I pretty much always do 22B or 3[A] after a GI because you get insane guard damage & frames.
Hussler
c2B loop only works off of some starters though: 3[A], 4KK, and 3B BE IIRC.
HolyCarp
Huh? You're saying it doesn't work after 22B, 66B BE or C2B?
C4A as a post GI option. That'd be a hilarious gimmick.
C4A as a post GI option. That'd be a hilarious gimmick.
Hussler
I lied. It does, but it's really dependent on camera, positioning, and more after those starters. It's just much more reliable off of 3[A] etc.
66B BE needs the CH for the c2B followup.
Can't charge A and GI at the same time :p.
66B BE needs the CH for the c2B followup.
Can't charge A and GI at the same time :p.
Hussler
Runis wrote a post about c2b loops:
http://8wayrun.com/threads/hilde-combo-listing.8772/#post-451494
http://8wayrun.com/threads/hilde-combo-listing.8772/#post-451494
Hussler
I guess it works off of CH [A+B] too. Man, I gotta review my stuff lol.
HolyCarp
How does Hilde punish throws if she's not charging? Her punishment from FC seems weak if you don't have a CE stocked. I generally A grab her all day because I'm scared of C2A lol.
Hussler
6AKA or 66B BE is her best punish from FC. She can always release A then press it again to break A :p.
Hussler
If she knows the throw is coming she'll just 22B, 2A+B, release any charge (they all have TC on startup), B+K, or 44B you (godly move BTW) lol
Hussler
Always respect the 22B. It's IMHO the best anti-poke in the game. Even at frame disadvantage or frame advantage you should always be scared!
HolyCarp
6AKA is a NC? I didn't know that, nice. And yes, I hate her 44B so much, if I were a Hilde player I'd be using this A LOT.
22B can be stepped/JG'd on reaction. But I don't really do this too often since I still haven't got the MU down, but if I bait out a 22B, Omega gets a 4[A] whiff punish and that's over half life with meter.
22B can be stepped/JG'd on reaction. But I don't really do this too often since I still haven't got the MU down, but if I bait out a 22B, Omega gets a 4[A] whiff punish and that's over half life with meter.