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Cuz Ivy doesn't have any good mid horizontals xD problem solved! and I don't like getting punished for over 110 dmg. I love when people spam SBH B against me, super easy to JG on reaction (kinda like b:4) and I get 3B NH combo for 75 dmg >:D

I was expecting low horizontals. Many ivy players seem to like to zone sieg with her low sweeps but you always went for 66A and apparently SBH B is to slow to whiffpunish it :-/

He can punish my overpowered 14 dmg low poke for over 110dmg? Damn him. If I do 66A when you're already in SBH then I won't be able to block it.

Thats what i thought too, so i went for it like what felt 10 times.
My stubbornness demanded me to not go for the unmanly SBH K punish lol
SBH B is good guard pressure though, so i don't feel bad about people blocking it, in case its too slow to whiffpunish.

Stop talking about this character here!

You are just jealous that your character is not manly.

Manly players don't need manly characters in videogames. =P

Chaos likes manly characters with big sword that suck xDD

That pretty much sums it up.
And you think siegfried sucks. I knew it - you wanted siegfried to get overnerfed not because he were op but because you are evil...I knew it.

This sums up how i feel: http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs8/i/2005/276/d/9/Why_Ivy_is_taller_than_me_by_AthaMaarit.jpg

Nah, I don't think he sucks but it's the general consensus of Sieg players so I might as well go with it. But I honestly thought Sieg was OP in the beta version (damage). He was a better character then (Panto agrees too), but it was prolly because damage modifier was different then (like SCH B doing like 70dmg when opponent OTG lol)

when hitting opponent otg*, I also think his CE stunned and guaranteed 3B afterwards. Plus better tracking etc, and the most important thing, Ivy was trash in beta, lowest damage in the game xD which is why my impression of Siegs damage was "OP"

Nah i was just joking. Sieg is a good char, at least for me personally he is the char that i do best with. I actually don't know why people still think that the Sieg SA is complaining. This is something that was prevalent only in the early stages of the game, prior to patch 1.02 when he genuinely was worse than now.

The Sieg SA is actually one of the most positive ones here on 8wayrun. Imo even a little bit too optimistic. For example with Heaton or Shen Yuan believing the alpha MU to be 5:5 to name an example.
The only one that is complaining is solo. Ok and panto but he rarely shows up.

I dunno, probably because I still often read a lot about terrible MUs against Omega and his whiffing problems. I also think Sieg is pretty good, especially cuz the backdash nerf has helped him tremendously (just like Ivy).

TBH If Ivy hadnt changed since 1.0 version id probably quit the game a long time ago, she was barely playable for me. As much as I hate the 1.02 patch, its the reason i still play scv xD

Well yes Omega is terrible for him but thats just one MU, the whiffing is unfortunate too but other than that he is totally fine.
When you look at patch-whishlist stuff you can see thats its all pretty humble. Most just want the whiffs to get fixed.

Meh i guess its because solo is by far the most active of the SA and he posts a lot in all areas of the site. No disrespect to solo though, i like him :D

You didn't like it? I loved it tbh (hope kalas is not reading) even though sieg got nerfed a little bit a whole bunch of chars that were difficult for him got nerfed, some of them very hard.

I just don't understand why they buffed Viola, Cervy, Algol and left aPat and Mitsu practically untouched. Imo for some reason they focused on nerfing other characters too much, and slept on the ones that needed the attention asap.

Though there are many changes I like. So I have mixed feelings about 1.02 patch. One thing for sure, the 1.03 patch was a complete waste .