MO-tempist said come to the west side and he will show you wassup. u can think what u want on that all im saying is that i train with the best (out here) and if the top (out here) tell me taki is TEIR then i agree. Aris won EVO with sc2 and had to play some of the most hardcore players ever to pick up soulcalibur. he knows frames EXTREMELY well. so sorry to say but if this dude along with others over here says taki is tier then i bleive them. IMO all that shit u do with kilik online is unblockables to my eyes truthfully. its verry hard to keep pressure or play mindgames with kilik when your pushing me back ONLINE. Timing is horrible. taki is most successful when she blocks a attack so she can punish it. Any PO string with taki is extremely dangerous since kiliks sits there swinging his long stick around. And the online lag just makes kilis better. kilik is BY FAR my most diffacult matchup (online) i dont have diffaculty playing ANY other character.