Ok. . so she was a he. .but would you still?

Organous said:
This is what started me on my path to accepting my bisexuality. I brought myself to consider a hypothetical scenario.
What if I were to date someone I believed to be female for a very long time, long enough for me to propose marriage. My fiancee confesses at this time that, before I act on it, I should know she's actually male (certainly it'd be very relevant with this gay marriage stuff). Obviously, this is also under the assumption that we never had sex, as this would very likely (but not absolutely) guarantee the discovery.
Looking at all sides of the issue, I would not recognize that there would be deception on some level, so the possibility of breaking it off with him is possible. Totally regardless of that fact, though, it does not change that I was attracted to this man. Assuming everything else aside from genitalia (even breasts can be altered should the man desire it) is otherwise as I prefer, I would have become attracted to a male enough to propose marriage. The knowledge that this person is actually a male and not female does not change how I have always felt about him.
My inevitable conclusion to this, which I know others will not share, was that the person matters more than the genitals. Anything beyond that would then depend on the individual situation, since as I mentioned previously, there would be some level of dishonesty to consider. Even on the sexual conduct, there are still two holes to work with that are certainly acceptable. In the end, it all comes down to everyone's comfort.

Now on transgenders, I certainly have no problem with that. There's only one problem with it, which would definitely impact a lot of people's decisions. Transgenders are infertile. They cannot create offspring. We've all heard about women who will go out to find men just so they can have children, but the same exists of men, too. There's lots of men out there who are more interested in having children than they are in their potential mate, so infertility would be an outright deal-breaker.

shit son, i think you looked a little too far into this. i will say though if someone came out to me as a different gender a day before marriage the dishonesty deal would ruin it more than anything. if you are not a male/female... great. just be honest right up front so i can to deal with it. anything else is disrespectful.
 
To that extent, you'd still have to define "up front." The most immediate way of making it known is not to dress or act as a female. I do not wish to put that kind of pressure on someone. Beyond that, do you want the first words from any crossdressing male to always be "I'm a guy" when talking to people? It's a blurry line, which is why I wouldn't make a concrete conclusion based on hypothetical situations. It'd depend on everything else that's going on as well as that.

I would say this is the last I'd say on the subject, but even though we're not talking about pre-op transgenders, it would seem to be relevant enough.
 
To that extent, you'd still have to define "up front." The most immediate way of making it known is not to dress or act as a female. I do not wish to put that kind of pressure on someone. Beyond that, do you want the first words from any crossdressing male to always be "I'm a guy" when talking to people? It's a blurry line, which is why I wouldn't make a concrete conclusion based on hypothetical situations. It'd depend on everything else that's going on as well as that.

I would say this is the last I'd say on the subject, but even though we're not talking about pre-op transgenders, it would seem to be relevant enough.

up front = right when you meet, i'd say within the first week or two if you want to become romantically involved. i don't think its fair to ask them to say something like "i am a guy", but i agree with asking them to say "i wasn't born this way". i'm the type that likes to get "controversial" (with most people) news like that out in the open early in the relationship so there aren't any conflicts about it once you are already emotionally invested. its not a concrete conclusion, and i've never actually had any experience like this, so i'm speaking purely with my imagination right now.

i'm not disagreeing with you, you have a pretty admirable outlook on this. different people handle different situations differently is all.


on the other hand, the person the op posted is very pretty. would've fooled me.

A tale of two swords, transgendering history...

LOL
 
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