Man Court poll.

[Wyde]

When society still basically tells women that they can't do shit by themselves and need men to take care of them, of course there's going to be an expectation with many to be supported by whomever's courting them, however applicable it may or may not be in this day and age where women and "feminine" traits (eg. enthusiasm about weddings) are generally considered almost equal to men and "masculine" traits (eg. proposing).

inb4 ew sjw

 

[Alex.J]

When society still basically tells women that they can't do shit by themselves and need men to take care of them, of course there's going to be an expectation with many to be supported by whomever's courting them, however applicable it may or may not be in this day and age where women and "feminine" traits (eg. enthusiasm about weddings) are generally considered almost equal to men and "masculine" traits (eg. proposing).

inb4 ew sjw

The bride market to women is a multi million dollar business in America. Bridal planners, bridal showers, bridal magazines, bridal television shows, invitation makers, wedding dress designers, and more things I can't keep up with. It's obvious to see how lopsided the interest/ control is.

 

[Wyde]

Ok cool. Girl club thing, I guess. What do you think should change?

 

[Alex.J]

Ok cool. Girl club thing, I guess. What do you think should change?

Well the culture changing would be nice for everyone. Since having lavish weddings that break the bank have nothing to do with actual love. Some women get more in love with their wedding than they do their husband. But since the divorce rate is around 40-50% in America. It's evident having expensive weddings really isn't important but just wasteful. If both parties used the money for something else like vacations, they'd probably be happier. Like a 30,000 dollar wedding, could be converted into multiple trips to Hawaii. Psychologically I think the later would be better for the relationship.

Where I got the number. http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/28/pf/average-wedding-cost/

Another article which shows how crazy elaborate weddings have become. And I can safely tell you, most of this is because of women. Most men don't stress about flowers or what napkin people are going to use.

http://www.costofwedding.com/

 

[Norik]

Since having lavish weddings that break the bank have nothing to do with actual love.
Some women get more in love with their wedding than they do their husband.
It's evident having expensive weddings really isn't important but just wasteful.

Trufax. Here's some more data.

What's the point of this thread though?