The Athiest Thread

[TerminatorCortez]

That's utterly farcical! So you're seriously telling me that EVERY person particularly including non-followers will get salvation even though this is strictly applicable to only those who actually believe in him? LOL. That's false.

Exhibit A
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.


Seems that God will save those who ONLY believe in him

Exhibit B
The Ten Commandments

"Thou shalt have no other gods"​

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Hindus believe in multiple Gods. It's not a monotheistic religion terminator, therefore why would God save somebody who does not abide the ten commandments​

Without sounding obnoxious, I really think that you need to read the bible again, and then re-evaluate what you're saying, because you're getting yourself caught up in a tangled web. Your points are becoming null and void now.

Well you really believe that God is going to punish all the innocent people that where brought up in a different lifestyle. Did you ever read the book of Jonah? Even when Niveneh was an enemy of Israel and didn't believe in God, they accepted the warning of Jonah and God didn't destroy their nation because he had mercy for the good and the innocent. God shows mercy, I'm sure that God will show mercy to anyone who didn't believe in him because they where brought up differently or that needed a proof of his existence like the apostle Thomas.

 

[TerminatorCortez]

In periods of time such as when the puritans existed, people were not allowed to explore the truth, and loopholes of Christianity for themselves, but it seems to be manifesting more, and more as time progresses. It's only a matter of time until religion becomes unimportant.

Well this is never going to happen, world war 3 is probably going to be caused by religion... it's happening right now

 

[SeraphimJester]

Well you really believe that God is going to punish all the innocent people that where brought up in a different lifestyle. Did you ever read the book of Jonah? Even when Niveneh was an enemy of Israel and didn't believe in God, they accepted the warning of Jonah and God didn't destroy their nation because he had mercy for the good and the innocent. God shows mercy, I'm sure that God will show mercy to anyone who didn't believe in him because they where brought up differently or that needed a proof of his existence like the apostle Thomas.

Reread the verse John 3:16 please. It gives the implication that those who do not believe in him WILL perish.

 

[Jrasta111]

Trying to tell people not to believe in God/or more like, there's no God, isn't like telling people there's no Carnage in the new Spiderman movie.

It's more like saying there's no Spiderman in the movie, because he's a fraud and should've stayed in the comic books where he belonged, don't bother with it. It may well be true, but that doesn't make it right.

Do you understand the concept of a power vacuum? Maybe you need to get past hypocrisy first, I'll give you a while.

 

[Lasercakes]

Snip

I think I believe something very similar. Science's purpose is to describe existence and if God exists, he and what he does must be able to be described whether or not a human can even comprehend it.

But why do you call it theism? Is it because you pursue something outside the universe? But you wouldn't say it exists outside of existence would you? What does that even mean? Do you believe what you pursue has a higher purpose?