SoulCast Episode #2: Esom

[xiang]

I have a feeling they don't plan that far ahead for fighters. If they did, I would expect we would have gotten a ruleset far sooner than we did.

As for growing the scene, money helps but it isn't everything. In fact, that's where a lot of people draw the line: Do you take the money but have to accept their terms; or, do you deal with less money and have the ability to stay "true to your roots." I'm not picking sides, I'm just saying that's why there's an MLG argument in the first place. One side like efficiency and bigger prizes and the other can live with lesser prizes if it means a more informal atmosphere. Eventually, the two are going to have to compromise.

 

[Ceirnian]

Well if they are going to start flying people out and top 8 gets big prizes, it makes their events worth it to go to for more people. That is one thing I hope the FGC copies from "esports", top 8 prize pool is a great idea.

 

[xiang]

That's cool for top 8, but not for the rest of the field. But, paying to more than top 3 is something a lot of tournaments have started to adopt, especially big events. I've always been a little skeptical of top 3-only payouts at anything over 64 entrants. If you get top 8 at a big event, you should at least break even.

 

[LP]

I have a feeling they don't plan that far ahead for fighters. If they did, I would expect we would have gotten a ruleset far sooner than we did.

As for growing the scene, money helps but it isn't everything. In fact, that's where a lot of people draw the line: Do you take the money but have to accept their terms; or, do you deal with less money and have the ability to stay "true to your roots." I'm not picking sides, I'm just saying that's why there's an MLG argument in the first place. One side like efficiency and bigger prizes and the other can live with lesser prizes if it means a more informal atmosphere. Eventually, the two are going to have to compromise.

What compromise has been made? The 3 out of 5 that lots of people like? Or the whole revenge or whatever it's called? I mean, I don't like sc5 as much as a lot of you but MLG did damn near everything right, actually listened to the players, and, for once, made SC not seem like a glorified side event that they're just putting up with. I won't comment on the logistics side of things, but you can go ahead and read through a bunch of tournaments going even years out and you get a feel of how much these 'grassroots' tournamnts shit on sc (and just about anything not Capcom).

Honestly, I feel like we're a group of women in an abusive relationship and I found me some new dick. I'm not saying I won't take part in majors by the FGC but, to anyone who travels who doesn't give MLG a chance, don't come bitching about how SC gt the shaft at such and such a tournament.

 

[xiang]

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Aside from the fact that the two sides are playing the same game? None, really. Different rules, different format, different structures all around. I wasn't suggesting any compromise had been made. I was mostly referring to the mentality of the two arenas. Individual feelings aside, MLG is a business and is run as such. Most FGC majors don't make a lot of money, so they don't have quite the same values or concerns.

But, more to your point, I don't think anyone was complaining about SC getting the shaft; in fact, I think most people have recognized that MLG was excellent exposure for the game. It's mostly community members that have certain gripes and feel the community is being taken advantage of. Again, I'm not taking sides, but I can see how both ends of the spectrum feel.

At the end of the day, as you suggest, everyone will have to make up their own minds.