Critical Edge: Cut Off Your Nose to Spite Your Face?
- Thread starter Jaxel
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Ooofmatic
World Warrior
I fully support our game going into eSports territory.
I do not support alienating ourselves from the other fighting game communities, aside from having our own awesome forum.
SRK may act shitty towards our community and our game, but let's not sink to their level and do the same.
I do not support alienating ourselves from the other fighting game communities, aside from having our own awesome forum.
SRK may act shitty towards our community and our game, but let's not sink to their level and do the same.
BrewtusBibulus
Get your eSports on!
Jaxel is a wonderful Administrator. I just think he needs to not put on the "Community Leader" hat ever again.
KingAce
HERMITISM
Why are people making a lot of baseless assumptions.
SRK doesn't represent the FGC. The site has just barely started showcasing other fighters on its front page. Anyone who has any sort of realism knows the site is for the 2d community and the majority of it is Capcom fighters.
So a few of you that play these games are assuming that unless the Capcom community at SRK picks up SCV, the game won't succeed? Lets get real...they'll probably dabble with the game for a couple of months realize it's 3d and go back to their 2d fighters. People that play 2d and 3d are a minority.
This community needs to learn to stand on its own. Just like Tekken does. I am personally tired of the SRK community and the it's lack of maturity. Them denying Esports is prime example of this. Esports doesn't really care whether Capcom fighters are represented or not. They make enough money already from more popular games and will continue to do so.
The only one who loses out in this equation is the Capcom community.
SRK doesn't represent the FGC. The site has just barely started showcasing other fighters on its front page. Anyone who has any sort of realism knows the site is for the 2d community and the majority of it is Capcom fighters.
So a few of you that play these games are assuming that unless the Capcom community at SRK picks up SCV, the game won't succeed? Lets get real...they'll probably dabble with the game for a couple of months realize it's 3d and go back to their 2d fighters. People that play 2d and 3d are a minority.
This community needs to learn to stand on its own. Just like Tekken does. I am personally tired of the SRK community and the it's lack of maturity. Them denying Esports is prime example of this. Esports doesn't really care whether Capcom fighters are represented or not. They make enough money already from more popular games and will continue to do so.
The only one who loses out in this equation is the Capcom community.
Alstein
[05] Battler
I think you're going to see a split here in opinions between the folks who have SC as their primary game (or are Capcom haters) , and folks who are Capcom fans first. One group will be heavily for this, the other against it.
Neither opinion in wrong, but I think Malice's idea is best for any non-Capcom community. Also, you don't have to abandon EVO to participate in MLG. VF5 participated in both in 2008-9 timeframe, and neither community had a problem with that (though VF was way too small to matter) If EVO wants to have SC, that's great, and you should support that. However, it's not something that should be relied on. Especially since EVO has a history of hurting some game communities- GG and Smash being the most notable examples.
If your goal is to compete with Capcom games, the only way you can grow the SC community above the SF community is through bigger prize pots and bigger tournies. That's something that you'll never get as long as you're tethered to a tourney circuit which is based around a competitor's game and doesn't fully respect anything outside of Capcom fighters. If you fail at that goal, you've likely still enlarged the community, and there's little risk- as much of the SC community is outside of the Capcom community, which is likely to start declining soon anyways due to a string of poor/mediocre games (either critically or sales).
It is quite possible that if other fighting game series hoist themselves on the Capcom/EVO banner, they could go down with the ship come 2013-14 or so. UMVC3 hasn't sold that well. AE hasn't wowed people all that much. SFvsTK is probably going to get horrible reviews (seriously, game reviewers I've talked to are calling Capcom stupid, and it's quite possible SFvsTK will be a bad game even without the gem issue) You need to build a scene that can last and grow outside of the Capcom scene.
Personally, I support Jaxel's idea 100%. That said, turning this into SC community vs Capcom community is not going to do any good.
One side suggestion- maybe 8WR should partner with a non-EVO major and declare that as SC's "national". The other majors are often much friendlier to non-Capcom games, and many of them would welcome the support/hype/traffic. Final Round and Devastation are probably the most logical choices here. The stronger the other majors are, the better it is for the FGC and individual game scenes as a whole.
Neither opinion in wrong, but I think Malice's idea is best for any non-Capcom community. Also, you don't have to abandon EVO to participate in MLG. VF5 participated in both in 2008-9 timeframe, and neither community had a problem with that (though VF was way too small to matter) If EVO wants to have SC, that's great, and you should support that. However, it's not something that should be relied on. Especially since EVO has a history of hurting some game communities- GG and Smash being the most notable examples.
If your goal is to compete with Capcom games, the only way you can grow the SC community above the SF community is through bigger prize pots and bigger tournies. That's something that you'll never get as long as you're tethered to a tourney circuit which is based around a competitor's game and doesn't fully respect anything outside of Capcom fighters. If you fail at that goal, you've likely still enlarged the community, and there's little risk- as much of the SC community is outside of the Capcom community, which is likely to start declining soon anyways due to a string of poor/mediocre games (either critically or sales).
It is quite possible that if other fighting game series hoist themselves on the Capcom/EVO banner, they could go down with the ship come 2013-14 or so. UMVC3 hasn't sold that well. AE hasn't wowed people all that much. SFvsTK is probably going to get horrible reviews (seriously, game reviewers I've talked to are calling Capcom stupid, and it's quite possible SFvsTK will be a bad game even without the gem issue) You need to build a scene that can last and grow outside of the Capcom scene.
Personally, I support Jaxel's idea 100%. That said, turning this into SC community vs Capcom community is not going to do any good.
One side suggestion- maybe 8WR should partner with a non-EVO major and declare that as SC's "national". The other majors are often much friendlier to non-Capcom games, and many of them would welcome the support/hype/traffic. Final Round and Devastation are probably the most logical choices here. The stronger the other majors are, the better it is for the FGC and individual game scenes as a whole.